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Mary Sue - How to Tell by windfalcon Mary Sue - How to Tell by windfalcon
EDIT 3: 11/22/09 You guys are kidding me XD For goodness sakes, reaaaaad the liink here: [link] Every time I get a comment that reads "the one on the left is a Mary Sue because she has green hair and a power," I realize that they're not reading the description which contains this link: [link]

tl;dr: If 'special' traits fit in with the universe, it doesn't automatically make the character a Mary Sue. What if everyone else in Ami Machida's universe has green/blue/purple hair? What if everyone else has a cat power? Does that make her a Mary Sue? Not necessarily.

Please, spare me the time from having to point you BACK to the silly description and just take a minute to read the link. You know, the one I linked to a bunch of times up above. And the link here: [link]


EDIT 2: 10/11/09 I suppose this is long overdue, but for those of you with confusion, here is an explanation on why I perceive the one on the left as not a Mary Sue: [link] For the love of god stop whining about it D:

EDIT: 6/21/09 Okay, everyone, please chill with all the 'hay is my character a mary-sue!?11" questions. I get about 3 a day now and one thing you need to understand - I AM NOT AN AUTHORITY ON MARY SUES. This picture is a parody. Just for fun. The one on the right is obviously an extreme exaggeration of a stereotype and not the definitive definition for a Mary Sue. D:

Please full view. You won't be able to read the text if you don't.

For those of you who don't know, a Mary Sue, in a nutshell, is a fanmade character that is usually extremely beautiful, powerful, smart, talented, and in plain words, perfect in every way.

These characters tend to be quite a bother in fanfiction and role playing, since they simply can't be beat, and thus become boring.

Have any of you ever been rping, and come across a character who is like, " oh, well, that planet in the way isn't a problem *blows it up*"

Or, is like, "well, Vegeta and Goten and Trunks and Goku ALL have a crush on my character"

Yep. That's a Mary Sue.

So, for people who still don't understand, I made this little picture/diagram. Usually, Mary Sues have TONS of talents and TONS of powers, and no weaknesses.

Enjoy ^_^

-Done in Copic Markers, with the background and text done on computer -
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:iconthelivingtribunal:
TheLivingTribunal Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2015
I just dont see nothing wrong with a marry sue if u add a personality cork on them and some kind of limit. Basically they can be op af but has some issue with dirt or men or women and cant fight because of it. I think ppl imaginations are low and they hate op characters i find myself dazzled by op characters as long as they not like beyonder or spectre and creating galaxies. But immortal whooptie do not so bad. Master of Haki so what. Planet buster is a lil over board unless u gonna give a personality quork like they will fall the sleep or something do to the use of the power and need  12 hrs of sleep or something. I just mean if you gonna make an op character with no weaknesses give them outside uses liek they do in marvel and stay out of mortal affairs. So its not that serious to me all can be fixed with just the right set of ideas. Lil tweaks here and there. Peace and love ppl
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Krs092001 Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
My fave is Ami
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:iconcutiedevilgurl143new:
MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW. MEEOWW
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:iconask-mary-of-ib:
Ask-Mary-Of-Ib Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
the one who has green hair = believable.
The one with the wings = Why? Just... No.
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:icongypsybling17:
GypsyBling17 Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Professional Artist
Ikr + the one on the left annoys the crap out of me :-X
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GoldenFreddy1 Featured By Owner Edited Jun 21, 2015  Student General Artist
If you add too much sugar, the drink will become too sweet. If you add too much lemon, the drink will become sour. To make a well-balanced drink, combine the two in moderation and you get a potentially good beverage. Same thing goes for Original and Fan Characters, your character can have Mary Sue traits but if you want a well-rounded character, you might want to add the traits in moderation and not overdo it.
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depressed-cookie Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I probably made Mary Sue's when i was 6 or something..
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GypsyBling17 Featured By Owner Edited Jun 9, 2015  Professional Artist
my OCs the sugar-gypsiez & spicy-wishiez is just like the girl on the left & they're just over 100% average-looking :iconfacebooklikeplz: except they never went to school & they're half human n half myth (they're imperfect) + my other OCs the pink-barbies they're just like the girl on the right (yes they're mary-sues who is way too perfect) :iconfacebookdislikeplz:
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segamarvel Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2015
And this is why Superman is NOT a Gary Stu.
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pokemontrainergirl Featured By Owner May 23, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
For everyone thinking Jasmyne is totally legit, Jasmyne isn't a real Sue. Windfalcon even said in the description she's an exaggeration. Besides, my friend has a demon character that's a Mary Sue, and it looks nothing like Jasmyne.
And then, there's Ebony Blahblahblah Raven Way.. She also looks nothing like Jasmyne. 

And then, Ami. Ami isn't in a different society according to the picture. She also isn't part of a fandom. So really, it just depends on who's looking at her profile.
Also, clumsiness is overrated. I have yet to see a character that isn't clumsy.
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ElvinGearMaster Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
As someone who has always had a friend who suffered from clumsiness, it's anything but overrated. Depending on how bad it is. 
*1-3 Stumble a bit now and then
3-4 maybe make your friends mad because you keep on whacking into them, thus making them stumble.
5-8 The floor is now your best buds. Seriously, you'll learn to like him since you keep meeting him.
8-10 You're a danger to everyone and everything. No fine china for you. In fact, your friends give you plastic glasses to drink from. Even their parents do this.
*this is only a tad accurate, but it does vary from person to person.
Problem is, nobody takes time to live up to that said trait.
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TheBlackestHeart Featured By Owner May 22, 2015  Student Digital Artist
It's weird that there is a girl at my school named Mary Sue...
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:iconnocturnal-sunlight:
Nocturnal-Sunlight Featured By Owner May 16, 2015  New Deviant
The one on the left is boring, lol.
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:iconrailguncz:
RailgunCz Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
not really, if the author wrote the character right
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Nocturnal-Sunlight Featured By Owner Edited Jun 6, 2015  New Deviant
It depends. Y'know, one can pull off a breathtaking story featuring an utterly boring character.
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:iconrailguncz:
RailgunCz Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
yeah, that's what i'm saying. it depends on the author's writing skill, really.
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lunatha Featured By Owner May 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ami is so cute!! ^u^
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AndyofIndiana Featured By Owner May 8, 2015  Hobbyist
Do you have a picture with just the girl on the left?
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TheBlackSpiritOfMine Featured By Owner May 3, 2015
Not every very preety character who is strong in many ways is supposed to be a Mary sue.
What makes one,though,is the lack of balance between flaws and strong points.
I've seen many anti-marysues who are potrayed in a mature opposite way of the Mary-sue stereotype,but still are,too plain.
You CAN have a character who is almost perfect,BUT the closer you are to perfection the bigger the flaws must be.
For example,the Mary-sue in the picture can be as she is,but whith the equal flaws that match with her talents,strong points etc...

With great power comes great responsibility.
Remember that sometimes characters are more likable if they have something unusual in them,sometimes..And that there are many characters in our favorate stories that often suffer from major sueish traits,but still try and balance them as they develop throughout the story.
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:iconedagamex:
EDaGamex Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2015  Student Artist
they both suck.
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zoeann0719 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2015
It may not be a Mary sue but a NEKO is way to over used
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:iconprincesspatchie:
PrincessPatchie Featured By Owner May 17, 2015
-.- Its not a Neko, its a neko-jin, which is canon in the Dragon-Ball Z universe. They're quite common.
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JeffKillerFangirl Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
  That one on the right, it looks like you followed these rules: glittercandy.deviantart.com/ar…
  (By :iconglittercandy:)
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oO-a-shton-Oo Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
One on the left (Ami) is very original
While the blonde headed, green eyed girl (Jasmyne) is too, bluuugghhhh!
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LyordMorado Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2015
Wow, people think that the one on the left is a Mary sue.

Did they not look at the one on the right, or do people just think that being 1\2 of everything and being perfect is realistic?

I'm just gonna assume that people can't read.

Also tomboyish =/= Mary Sue. Being feminine doesn't make you better than anyone else.
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Mia-feather Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2015
what does mary sue mean 
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Brotherhood-Paladin Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2015
A perfect character that has no development and is perfect. The most important thing on here I think is that the one on the right has no weaknesses. That is not a character. Everyone must have some kind of mental or physical weakness.
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PepperedSoda Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2015   Artist
ya now, theyre both not a mary sue. because. in the end. Were so afraid that people will scream at us MARY SUE YOUR SO BAD! I HATE YOUR ART! so your making people more afraid then ever
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TheGodOfYou Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2015  New Deviant
:wat: 
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:iconpepperedsoda:
PepperedSoda Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2015   Artist
Also how do you not have an icon for your oc? I mean Mary Sue, the term is thrown around so much let's replace oc with Mary Sue!
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:iconthegodofyou:
TheGodOfYou Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2015  New Deviant
"Also how do you not have an icon for your oc?" what?


Its not that. Its the fact that people don't put effort into most characters/ocs/fursonas/ect. An OC is supposed to make you happy but they can be annoying to other people, noone wants to roleplay with a character/read/look at, who is better then them in every way. I tend to put thought into my characters and fursonas so they can blend nicely. Imagine a OC/fursona/character as a if you were making smoothie, putting the right, well mixed and decent amount of ingredients in will make a pleasant, enjoyable, smooth mixture. Shoving in everything you see and adding things that just don't add up creates a sour, poor, unenjoyable mix
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PepperedSoda Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2015   Artist
Life is miserable.
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:iconthegodofyou:
TheGodOfYou Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2015  New Deviant
Yet again: :wat: 
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NlKlTA Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015  Student Writer
Well concidering this was made 11 years ago, I guess times changed
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catgirl140 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
A couple of special traits explained well isn't a Mary Sue but a bucket load with no realistic reason is. The main way to prevent creating a Mary Sue is making sure it fits the universe it's set in. :)

Unless the universe created is bad too :T
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MUGENRobotThunderGod Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015
misslunarose.deviantart.com/art/What-Is-a-Mary-Sue-412495707
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Vivian-Lark Featured By Owner Edited Jan 5, 2015
i think you've got this wrong,
A mary sue isn't always like that.  Maybe the one on the right is a goddess and that's why she's so perfect.  It's all about how the creator portrays their character.  Not how many powers they have.
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VinylLuna Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
When I see good characters like your character Ami my face looks like this:Big Grin 
But when I see a damn Mary Sue or a Gary Stu then this is my face:Anger 
Great job describing the difference,because this usually happens with MS and GS's:
Kurimu Sakurano (Dere) [V1] (Mary Sue) "Um move out of my way Stupid!I can destroy you just by looking at you!"
Gohan (Teleport) [V1] (Gohan disappears)
Kurimu Sakurano (Sparkle Eyes) [V1] "Ha! He was soooooo scared!"
Gohan (Teleport) [V1] (Reappears with a shotgun)"Buh-Bye!"


R.I.P Mary Sue who was 1/2 Namekian, 1/2 Saiyan, 1/2 human and 1/2 Angel.
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WordlessRickian47 Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2014  Student Writer
I'm getting a feeling it's the one on the right, but I'm not certain. X3 Great job. I honestly wasn't sure what a Mary Sue was before this. Thanks.
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Shizuru-Minamino Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014
You know "cannot die" can have drawbacks and can be a weakness. Look at Ed and Al's father, Van Hohenheim. For a long time, he couldn't die, even though he wished he could. Well at least not until the destruction of Father. Unable to die can be considered a weakness, like if Jasmyne's mother dies and young Jasmyne lacks the ability to cross worlds to see her again. I submit this example shizuru-minamino.deviantart.co… . Martha is unable to die and can't get pregnant due to being immortal. This is really a weakness for her, rather than a strength or any sort of power.
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DERPIII Featured By Owner Edited Dec 29, 2014
...D'aww, Satoshi didn't get together with Naomi.
....Assuming you mean Corpse Party's Satoshi, his last name is Mochida.
Ah, well. Ami seems like a nice girl.
But Jasmyne is an eyesore. lol
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GlitchedSanity Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
pssst- His last name was Machida--
not mochida


also

Naomi x Seiko ftw 
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DERPIII Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015
I ship it too! :3
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GlitchedSanity Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Good!

-will never ship satoshi with Naomi cuz Satoshi x Yuka--
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NiftyNautilus Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Yeah, the one who's part cat, but is otherwise a regular teenage girl is a pretty believable. The Mary Sue, conversely...:iconeewplz:
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SevenStepsAway Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2014
The right one got me epilepsy. Thanks, Satan^^
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TheMadameVastra Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2014  Professional Photographer
The struggle is real.
My best friend has like 10 Mary Sue OCs. I beta for her fanfiction. I am a really strict beta (don't get me wrong, though, I'm not terrible! I want to be fair, and I praise the good stuff) and whenever I point out one of the biggest flaws (for instance, she has a character that has wings, double eye colors, eVERY SINGLE BOY IS IN LOVE WITH HER, she's an alien but looks perrrrrrrrfectly human, and so on) she goes "It's an alternate universe, I can do anything."
She's been my best friend since 3rd grade and I don't want to make her feel horrible but I just..... 'Alternate universe' is not an excuse. 'It's my story' is not an excuse. I am a fanfiction writer and reader, and I know a Mary Sue when I see one. I want to be fair but at the same time I want to be clear that she canNOT keep on making Mary Sues or she will burn and crash in the fanfiction world.
Tsk.
Anyway, I really like your art! I can't believe it's so old. I might be getting Copic markers for Christmas.
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pikachuiscoolio Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
TheMadameVastra, if you really want to be a good friend you ought to pull her out of the tomb your friend is digging for herself.

Unless things have changed in the past month, seeing as I'm posting this comment on Dec. 13.

This may be her alternate universe, but it's sure as hell going to be a boring one if her character is perfect. A good story needs some excitement and goals, and that won't happen if the main character has everything she wants and a million boys swooning after her.
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Ask-James-DemonFire Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
*makes whining sound because of Mary Sue*  shEs uglY but tHe Ami giRl is cutE and tHe maRy suE can't haVe thaT manY halFs if it was HundReds I wouLd unDer staNd and The Mary suE isnT weaRing a Bra............heR baCk musT huRt aloT
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