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Mary Sue - How to Tell by windfalcon Mary Sue - How to Tell by windfalcon
EDIT 3: 11/22/09 You guys are kidding me XD For goodness sakes, reaaaaad the liink here: [link] Every time I get a comment that reads "the one on the left is a Mary Sue because she has green hair and a power," I realize that they're not reading the description which contains this link: [link]

tl;dr: If 'special' traits fit in with the universe, it doesn't automatically make the character a Mary Sue. What if everyone else in Ami Machida's universe has green/blue/purple hair? What if everyone else has a cat power? Does that make her a Mary Sue? Not necessarily.

Please, spare me the time from having to point you BACK to the silly description and just take a minute to read the link. You know, the one I linked to a bunch of times up above. And the link here: [link]


EDIT 2: 10/11/09 I suppose this is long overdue, but for those of you with confusion, here is an explanation on why I perceive the one on the left as not a Mary Sue: [link] For the love of god stop whining about it D:

EDIT: 6/21/09 Okay, everyone, please chill with all the 'hay is my character a mary-sue!?11" questions. I get about 3 a day now and one thing you need to understand - I AM NOT AN AUTHORITY ON MARY SUES. This picture is a parody. Just for fun. The one on the right is obviously an extreme exaggeration of a stereotype and not the definitive definition for a Mary Sue. D:

Please full view. You won't be able to read the text if you don't.

For those of you who don't know, a Mary Sue, in a nutshell, is a fanmade character that is usually extremely beautiful, powerful, smart, talented, and in plain words, perfect in every way.

These characters tend to be quite a bother in fanfiction and role playing, since they simply can't be beat, and thus become boring.

Have any of you ever been rping, and come across a character who is like, " oh, well, that planet in the way isn't a problem *blows it up*"

Or, is like, "well, Vegeta and Goten and Trunks and Goku ALL have a crush on my character"

Yep. That's a Mary Sue.

So, for people who still don't understand, I made this little picture/diagram. Usually, Mary Sues have TONS of talents and TONS of powers, and no weaknesses.

Enjoy ^_^

-Done in Copic Markers, with the background and text done on computer -
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ScholaroftheUniverse Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
I like the fact that all of the animals in the Mary Sue's panel are glaring at her XD
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segamarvel Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2015
A lot of people go on and on about how important it is that a character be flawed. This is not so. The reason flawless characters like Superman are popular is because a character doesn't need flaws; they need vulnerability. I think that no matter how "perfect" a character is, as long as you enjoy, relate, or basically just like that character, it doesn't really matter. I enjoy a lot of characters many call "Mary Sues" (Superman, Alicorn Twilight, Mickey Mouse ect) even if some don't because I could honestly care less about how many flaws a character has as long as I enjoy them.
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ewanme99 Featured By Owner 6 days ago
people have called mickey mouse a mary sue? also, i couldn't agree more.
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segamarvel Featured By Owner 6 days ago
Only stupid people have called him that. I never really saw why.
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ewanme99 Featured By Owner 6 days ago
huh.
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segamarvel Featured By Owner 6 days ago
What also annoys me is how much the definition to a mary sue has changed. It used to be as simple as "never being challenged by the events of the narrative". No it seems it's a whole bunch of meanings without a straight answer. This kinda explains it for me. www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnokGc…
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ewanme99 Featured By Owner 6 days ago
i've seen that before, a really helpful video!
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segamarvel Featured By Owner 6 days ago
I know right? I'm actually a big fan of superman. Gotta respect the S you know?
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ewanme99 Featured By Owner 6 days ago
yhea.
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candycanemaker Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2015  Student Artist
glad i read this i want to make a oc and i heard that doing a mary sue\gary stu is a vary bad idea so i wanted to make sure i'm not making one on accident 
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Quiteamate Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2015
No shit, Sherlock. I know how to make a strong character without being a Mary Sue.
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GypsyBling17 Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2015  Professional Artist
both of them sounds amazing & boring at the same time lol lol lol :D :D :D :D
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GypsyBling17 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2015  Professional Artist
It should've been king vegeta lol :D
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kijierqwert Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
The one on the left might not be a Mary Sue, but she is extremely generic and cliche. She seems like any protagonist in any slice of life anime, and she would be pretty boring unless it was some dystopian psychological thriller anime and she got some character development (which would actually be pretty interesting to see if that was a real anime! I find that most psychological thriller anime always have a cold aloof character as the protagonist or deuteragonist, but never a moe girl).
Also, the one on the right isn't necessarily a Mary Sue, it all depends on how she interacts with the other characters and the universe of the setting, like for example if she was a total asshole to everyone yet they all worship her and want to be friends with her, or if she is totally nice to everyone yet they all hate her, then she would be a Mary Sue because she bends the rules of the universe. There's really nothing wrong with being descriptive, for me it helps to visualize the character better and I like descriptors to be precise. Also, if she is in a lot of clubs and such, is she automatically successful in all of them? Because even if she is, it would be justified if she does try hard for each of them. If she's bad in all but still gets a lot of praise, then that would be a Mary Sue thing (unless again it is justified by everyone being raised to be nice to everyone and have low expectations in their society).
So my point is that there's nothing wrong with having a lot of anything provided that it is justified by the rules of the universe in the story's setting, it complicates the character which makes it more 3 dimensional for me. Also, even if a character is bad at something that doesn't stop them from being a Mary Sue. It all depends on the characters' interaction with other characters and their universe.
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TheLivingTribunal Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2015
I just dont see nothing wrong with a marry sue if u add a personality cork on them and some kind of limit. Basically they can be op af but has some issue with dirt or men or women and cant fight because of it. I think ppl imaginations are low and they hate op characters i find myself dazzled by op characters as long as they not like beyonder or spectre and creating galaxies. But immortal whooptie do not so bad. Master of Haki so what. Planet buster is a lil over board unless u gonna give a personality quork like they will fall the sleep or something do to the use of the power and need  12 hrs of sleep or something. I just mean if you gonna make an op character with no weaknesses give them outside uses liek they do in marvel and stay out of mortal affairs. So its not that serious to me all can be fixed with just the right set of ideas. Lil tweaks here and there. Peace and love ppl
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Krs092001 Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
My fave is Ami
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MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW. MEEOWW
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Ask-Mary-Of-Ib Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
the one who has green hair = believable.
The one with the wings = Why? Just... No.
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GypsyBling17 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2015  Professional Artist
the one on the right is very annoying :-X
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Ask-Mary-Of-Ib Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yeah, also, No weakness? unbelievable.
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PierrotEclipse Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2015  New Deviant
But..that's the non-Sue..unless you dislike her, which is your opinion.
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GoldenFreddy1 Featured By Owner Edited Jun 21, 2015  Student General Artist
If you add too much sugar, the drink will become too sweet. If you add too much lemon, the drink will become sour. To make a well-balanced drink, combine the two in moderation and you get a potentially good beverage. Same thing goes for Original and Fan Characters, your character can have Mary Sue traits but if you want a well-rounded character, you might want to add the traits in moderation and not overdo it.
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GypsyBling17 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2015  Professional Artist
well said :iconfblikeplz:
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GoldenFreddy1 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2015  Student General Artist
Thank you. Here, have a CPU cookie.
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GypsyBling17 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2015  Professional Artist
you're welcome + thanks
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GoldenFreddy1 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2015  Student General Artist
You're welcome.
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GoldenFreddy1 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2015  Student General Artist
Chandelier swinging.
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depressed-cookie Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I probably made Mary Sue's when i was 6 or something..
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segamarvel Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2015
And this is why Superman is NOT a Gary Stu.
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pokemontrainergirl Featured By Owner May 23, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
For everyone thinking Jasmyne is totally legit, Jasmyne isn't a real Sue. Windfalcon even said in the description she's an exaggeration. Besides, my friend has a demon character that's a Mary Sue, and it looks nothing like Jasmyne.
And then, there's Ebony Blahblahblah Raven Way.. She also looks nothing like Jasmyne. 

And then, Ami. Ami isn't in a different society according to the picture. She also isn't part of a fandom. So really, it just depends on who's looking at her profile.
Also, clumsiness is overrated. I have yet to see a character that isn't clumsy.
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ElvinGearMaster Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
As someone who has always had a friend who suffered from clumsiness, it's anything but overrated. Depending on how bad it is. 
*1-3 Stumble a bit now and then
3-4 maybe make your friends mad because you keep on whacking into them, thus making them stumble.
5-8 The floor is now your best buds. Seriously, you'll learn to like him since you keep meeting him.
8-10 You're a danger to everyone and everything. No fine china for you. In fact, your friends give you plastic glasses to drink from. Even their parents do this.
*this is only a tad accurate, but it does vary from person to person.
Problem is, nobody takes time to live up to that said trait.
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TheBlackestHeart Featured By Owner May 22, 2015  Student Digital Artist
It's weird that there is a girl at my school named Mary Sue...
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GypsyBling17 Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2015  Professional Artist
are you serious lol
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TheBlackestHeart Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Yes XD
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GypsyBling17 Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2015  Professional Artist
oh lawdy lol xD + you told the truth ^^ :iconfblikeplz:
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TheBlackestHeart Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Yay! >w<
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GypsyBling17 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2015  Professional Artist
you earned a watch & llama by/from me ^^ :huggle:
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TheBlackestHeart Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Yay! Huggle! 
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GypsyBling17 Featured By Owner Edited Aug 7, 2015  Professional Artist
I have mary-sue characters lol :D the group name is pink-barbies
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Nocturnal-Sunlight Featured By Owner May 16, 2015
The one on the left is boring, lol.
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RailgunCz Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
not really, if the author wrote the character right
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It depends. Y'know, one can pull off a breathtaking story featuring an utterly boring character.
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RailgunCz Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
yeah, that's what i'm saying. it depends on the author's writing skill, really.
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lunatha Featured By Owner May 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ami is so cute!! ^u^
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AndyofIndiana Featured By Owner May 8, 2015  Hobbyist
Do you have a picture with just the girl on the left?
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