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Mary Sue - How to Tell by windfalcon Mary Sue - How to Tell by windfalcon
EDIT 3: 11/22/09 You guys are kidding me XD For goodness sakes, reaaaaad the liink here: [link] Every time I get a comment that reads "the one on the left is a Mary Sue because she has green hair and a power," I realize that they're not reading the description which contains this link: [link]

tl;dr: If 'special' traits fit in with the universe, it doesn't automatically make the character a Mary Sue. What if everyone else in Ami Machida's universe has green/blue/purple hair? What if everyone else has a cat power? Does that make her a Mary Sue? Not necessarily.

Please, spare me the time from having to point you BACK to the silly description and just take a minute to read the link. You know, the one I linked to a bunch of times up above. And the link here: [link]


EDIT 2: 10/11/09 I suppose this is long overdue, but for those of you with confusion, here is an explanation on why I perceive the one on the left as not a Mary Sue: [link] For the love of god stop whining about it D:

EDIT: 6/21/09 Okay, everyone, please chill with all the 'hay is my character a mary-sue!?11" questions. I get about 3 a day now and one thing you need to understand - I AM NOT AN AUTHORITY ON MARY SUES. This picture is a parody. Just for fun. The one on the right is obviously an extreme exaggeration of a stereotype and not the definitive definition for a Mary Sue. D:

Please full view. You won't be able to read the text if you don't.

For those of you who don't know, a Mary Sue, in a nutshell, is a fanmade character that is usually extremely beautiful, powerful, smart, talented, and in plain words, perfect in every way.

These characters tend to be quite a bother in fanfiction and role playing, since they simply can't be beat, and thus become boring.

Have any of you ever been rping, and come across a character who is like, " oh, well, that planet in the way isn't a problem *blows it up*"

Or, is like, "well, Vegeta and Goten and Trunks and Goku ALL have a crush on my character"

Yep. That's a Mary Sue.

So, for people who still don't understand, I made this little picture/diagram. Usually, Mary Sues have TONS of talents and TONS of powers, and no weaknesses.

Enjoy ^_^

-Done in Copic Markers, with the background and text done on computer -
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Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016  Hobbyist
Okay but hear me out:
The character on the left may have "flaws", but most of them are generic, something you find in every third OC out there. Can't dance? Seen it. Bad at math? Literally every teenage novel protagonist ever. Clumsy? Oh, don't even get me started... Cries to much? See, this could actually be interesting if we were told what she cries about or how she handles that.
Same with her hobbies, the only mildly unusual thing here is gardening, but again, no detail, like why does she enjoy it so much? Maybe she prefers the quiet, accepting company of plants over people, as they only tend to make her cry, but again, I can't really say anything about a character whose personality and backstory I know literally nothing about, yet I'm told to find them "believable" and "well-thought out". 
Don't get me wrong, I believe in the potential of every character and I've seen WAY worse than your green-haired neko-jin over there. Just, personally, I would prefer reading a story about your overcompensated, so-called "Mary Sue"-character, who you clearly created in an effort to show how badly-written most of todays OCs are. But doing that, you created exactly what modern Mary Sues aren't, a character that sticks out from the crowd of generic High School-Neko-Girls.
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KateyTheCat Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Student General Artist
I think that was just a very simple example of mary-sue and no mary-sue characters.
But I do agree with adding detail to personality and backstory. :)
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Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist
I think she was trying to show the "overpowered"-aspect of a Mary Sue with her right example.
However, she acknowledged that this is only part of what makes a character a Sue. One of the others being exactly that, personality and backstory, as that is what most of them lack.
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insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016  New Deviant Professional General Artist
THIS IS FUYCKING STUPID FUCK U JUST BECAUSE AN OC IS LIKE TAHT DOESNT MEABAB ANYTHING
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Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016  Hobbyist
(I'm fairly sure you're a troll account, but I'm still going to pretend you're an at least somewhat educated human being that I can talk to normally)
Indeed it does. For you see, the streghts, weaknesses and powers you give to a certain character make that character unique and special. But exactly those unique and special characters get rarer and rarer as everyone is trying to create relatable, "believable" characters, scared of theirs being called a "Mary Sue". If your character does impersonate some of the traits on the right, awesome! At least that'll make them more memorable. If they don't, that's allright to. Just be sure to give them something special to make up for their average-ness.
Because what really shapes your character isn't that their good at Basketball and like animals. It's their quirks and growth as a character, it's how they crie everytime someone breaks their heart, yet try again and again at the relentless raffle of love. Or how they go from being the little, looked-down-upon infant to the saving grace risking their life for the people they care about.
It's not the cutesy, green hair that matters. Or the unicorn sidekicks. It's how, well, "believable" and "well-thought out" your characters are.
And to tell you one thing, Miss Neko-jin on the left is neither.
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insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016  New Deviant Professional General Artist
Bla blablablabla i m not reading all that 
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Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016  Hobbyist
Well, then let me tell you something that actually catches your attention:
UR OC SUX
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insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016  New Deviant Professional General Artist
no I dont care what u think and im not reading that i cant be bothered idiot 
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Slimey-Slime Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2016  New Deviant
Fuck off.
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insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2016  New Deviant Professional General Artist
NO YOU FUCK OFF
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Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  Hobbyist
..because you created that OC with the premise of mimicking your fake-personality of an obnoxious 7-year old girl, my dear middle-aged friend with no life. Had you created it to be an intriguing, unique character that might have come out differently.
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insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  New Deviant Professional General Artist
IM NOT MIDDLE AGED FYI IF U DONT LIKE MY OC FUCK OFF BITCH
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Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  Hobbyist
..because you created that OC with the premise of mimicking your fake-personality of an obnoxious 7-year old girl, my dear middle-aged friend with no life. Had you created it to be an intriguing, unique character that might have come out differently.
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insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  New Deviant Professional General Artist
IM NOT MIDDLE AGED FYI im 14 so be quiet IF U DONT LIKE MY ART LEAVE ME ALONE BITCH 
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insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016  New Deviant Professional General Artist
no I dont care what u think and im not reading that i cant be bothered idiot 
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Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  Hobbyist
..because you created that OC with the premise of mimicking your fake-personality of an obnoxious 7-year old girl, my dear middle-aged friend with no life. Had you created it to be an intriguing, unique character that might have come out differently.
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insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  New Deviant Professional General Artist
IM NOT MIDDLE AGED FYI im 14 so be quiet IF U DONT LIKE MY ART LEAVE ME ALONE BITCH 
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insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  New Deviant Professional General Artist
IM NOT MIDDLE AGED FYI im 14 so be quiet IF U DONT LIKE MY ART LEAVE ME ALONE BITCH 
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insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  New Deviant Professional General Artist
IM NOT MIDDLE AGED FYI im 14 so be quiet IF U DONT LIKE MY ART LEAVE ME ALONE BITCH 
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insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  New Deviant Professional General Artist
IM NOT MIDDLE AGED FYI im 14 so be quiet IF U DONT LIKE MY ART LEAVE ME ALONE BITCH 
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insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  New Deviant Professional General Artist
IM NOT MIDDLE AGED FYI im 14 so be quiet IF U DONT LIKE MY ART LEAVE ME ALONE BITCH 
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insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  New Deviant Professional General Artist
IM NOT MIDDLE AGED FYI im 14 so be quiet IF U DONT LIKE MY ART LEAVE ME ALONE BITCH 
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IM NOT MIDDLE AGED FYI im 14 so be quiet IF U DONT LIKE MY ART LEAVE ME ALONE BITCH 
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IM NOT MIDDLE AGED FYI im 14 so be quiet IF U DONT LIKE MY ART LEAVE ME ALONE BITCH 
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Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  Hobbyist
..because you created that OC with the premise of mimicking your fake-personality of an obnoxious 7-year old girl, my dear middle-aged friend with no life. Had you created it to be an intriguing, unique character that might have come out differently.
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insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  New Deviant Professional General Artist
IM NOT MIDDLE AGED FYI i IF U DONT LIKE MY ART LEAVE ME ALONE BITCH aATLEAST Y OC ISNT FAT AND UGLY LIKE YOURS 
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Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  Hobbyist
This is probably not about to convince you at all, but I'm someone very appreciative of different bodytypes, races and other things differencianating your character from the crowd. My characters may not fit your picture of a "cute, sexy anime-girl desu", but that doesn't matter because that's not what they're supposed to be.
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GreatRose101 Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2016
Stop making characters "half this half that"
If they're going to be a lot of things, say 1/16 or 1/12!
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nexgencn Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I dont think this fits the definition of a mary sue character, either of them.
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Norazx Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2016
Hey, I can make an extremely interesting and creative character too!

Name: Bob

Hobbies: Watching TV, eating fast food, plays video games but doesn't get that into them, going out drinking with his buddies

Job: Some office job

Strengths: His IQ is slightly above average (103) and he can out eat all his friends. Also, he can do 40 push ups.

Weaknesses: He's a bit nervous around the opposite sex. He sometimes has trouble maintaining his weight.

I'm such an amazing writer! I'm going to be like the next Tolkien or something!
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GreatRose101 Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2016
Shit character
I can't do 40 pushups. That's OP!
You made a Mary Sue!
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Norazx Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2016
The left one isn't interesting at all, the left one is just "not a Marry Sue". Sorry, but simply not create a Marry Sue isn't a magic way of creating an interesting and well thought out character, that's something that takes effort. The left one is pretty dull, to be perfectly frank.
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coolcat0 Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2016
So you'd like to make/RP with/read about a Mary Sue more than a balanced character? Because there's more stuff about them?
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GreatRose101 Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2016
Both characters are lame.
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Shadowkittymoon2000 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2016
I hate that kind of characters ruin a good story
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LittleVineRabbit Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2016
Is the one on the left a real oc?
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Inspector-Spinda Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
the one on the left isn't really a sue, but isn't really a good character either. cry and being clumsy really aren't good weakness
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AokoAnegasaki Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
This was made in 2004, but whatever this helped a lot in my writing, thanks. I've determined that my main character is not a Mary-Sue.
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DoktorrSketchy Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Actually, it's a very stereotype anime character.
Maybe you should read this: comments.deviantart.com/1/5470…
Having some powers and different colors doesnt make it a mary sue.
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