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Mary Sue - How to Tell by windfalcon Mary Sue - How to Tell by windfalcon
EDIT 3: 11/22/09 You guys are kidding me XD For goodness sakes, reaaaaad the liink here: [link] Every time I get a comment that reads "the one on the left is a Mary Sue because she has green hair and a power," I realize that they're not reading the description which contains this link: [link]

tl;dr: If 'special' traits fit in with the universe, it doesn't automatically make the character a Mary Sue. What if everyone else in Ami Machida's universe has green/blue/purple hair? What if everyone else has a cat power? Does that make her a Mary Sue? Not necessarily.

Please, spare me the time from having to point you BACK to the silly description and just take a minute to read the link. You know, the one I linked to a bunch of times up above. And the link here: [link]


EDIT 2: 10/11/09 I suppose this is long overdue, but for those of you with confusion, here is an explanation on why I perceive the one on the left as not a Mary Sue: [link] For the love of god stop whining about it D:

EDIT: 6/21/09 Okay, everyone, please chill with all the 'hay is my character a mary-sue!?11" questions. I get about 3 a day now and one thing you need to understand - I AM NOT AN AUTHORITY ON MARY SUES. This picture is a parody. Just for fun. The one on the right is obviously an extreme exaggeration of a stereotype and not the definitive definition for a Mary Sue. D:

Please full view. You won't be able to read the text if you don't.

For those of you who don't know, a Mary Sue, in a nutshell, is a fanmade character that is usually extremely beautiful, powerful, smart, talented, and in plain words, perfect in every way.

These characters tend to be quite a bother in fanfiction and role playing, since they simply can't be beat, and thus become boring.

Have any of you ever been rping, and come across a character who is like, " oh, well, that planet in the way isn't a problem *blows it up*"

Or, is like, "well, Vegeta and Goten and Trunks and Goku ALL have a crush on my character"

Yep. That's a Mary Sue.

So, for people who still don't understand, I made this little picture/diagram. Usually, Mary Sues have TONS of talents and TONS of powers, and no weaknesses.

Enjoy ^_^

-Done in Copic Markers, with the background and text done on computer -
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:iconbudderartist:
budderartist Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm just gonna download this and keep it in my gallery for safe keeping. This is a good image for research.
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:icon87man:
87man Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Lawl.  
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:iconinside-our-mind:
inside-our-mind Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Serenity x Vegeta. My new OTP.
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:iconhalomindy:
halomindy Featured By Owner May 17, 2016   Writer
Am I the only one that feels bad for vegeta?
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SkinnyGreenKiller Featured By Owner May 18, 2016  Student Digital Artist
Definitely not, lolp
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:iconcreativity-buttery:
Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016  Hobbyist
Okay but hear me out:
The character on the left may have "flaws", but most of them are generic, something you find in every third OC out there. Can't dance? Seen it. Bad at math? Literally every teenage novel protagonist ever. Clumsy? Oh, don't even get me started... Cries to much? See, this could actually be interesting if we were told what she cries about or how she handles that.
Same with her hobbies, the only mildly unusual thing here is gardening, but again, no detail, like why does she enjoy it so much? Maybe she prefers the quiet, accepting company of plants over people, as they only tend to make her cry, but again, I can't really say anything about a character whose personality and backstory I know literally nothing about, yet I'm told to find them "believable" and "well-thought out". 
Don't get me wrong, I believe in the potential of every character and I've seen WAY worse than your green-haired neko-jin over there. Just, personally, I would prefer reading a story about your overcompensated, so-called "Mary Sue"-character, who you clearly created in an effort to show how badly-written most of todays OCs are. But doing that, you created exactly what modern Mary Sues aren't, a character that sticks out from the crowd of generic High School-Neko-Girls.
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KateyTheCat Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Student General Artist
I think that was just a very simple example of mary-sue and no mary-sue characters.
But I do agree with adding detail to personality and backstory. :)
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Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner May 3, 2016  Hobbyist
I think she was trying to show the "overpowered"-aspect of a Mary Sue with her right example.
However, she acknowledged that this is only part of what makes a character a Sue. One of the others being exactly that, personality and backstory, as that is what most of them lack.
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insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016   General Artist
THIS IS FUYCKING STUPID FUCK U JUST BECAUSE AN OC IS LIKE TAHT DOESNT MEABAB ANYTHING
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budderartist Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
*internal cringe* so many spelling mistakes.
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:iconinsaneophelia666:
insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner 2 days ago   General Artist
shut the fuck up 
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:iconbudderartist:
budderartist Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Is the overuse of the word used for sex your thing? If so than that's cliché, like Sonic.exe cliché.
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:iconinsaneophelia666:
insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner 2 days ago   General Artist
no you fucking roach 
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:iconbudderartist:
budderartist Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
From the sounds of it, it is your thing!
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:iconmeowmeow221:
meowmeow221 Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2016  Student General Artist
"Meabab"
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:iconinsaneophelia666:
insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2016   General Artist
ITS A FUCKING TYPO 
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:iconmeowmeow221:
meowmeow221 Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2016  Student General Artist
It's just a really funny typo.
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:iconinsaneophelia666:
insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2016   General Artist
SO
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:iconmeowmeow221:
meowmeow221 Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2016  Student General Artist
It's just funny :)
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:iconinsaneophelia666:
insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner 6 days ago   General Artist
no
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:iconmeowmeow221:
meowmeow221 Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Student General Artist
It's funny to me. Have fun trolling! 
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:iconkawaiispringbonnie:
kawaiispringbonnie Featured By Owner May 30, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
only because your oc is a mary sue, doesn't mean to show your hate here ok?
Go see some real ocs
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GreatRose101 Featured By Owner May 24, 2016
It means everything mate
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:iconl4p1s:
L4P1S Featured By Owner May 8, 2016  New Deviant Student Digital Artist
mebab
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:iconinsaneophelia666:
insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner May 8, 2016   General Artist
what
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:iconl4p1s:
L4P1S Featured By Owner May 8, 2016  New Deviant Student Digital Artist
you put mebab
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:iconcreativity-buttery:
Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016  Hobbyist
(I'm fairly sure you're a troll account, but I'm still going to pretend you're an at least somewhat educated human being that I can talk to normally)
Indeed it does. For you see, the streghts, weaknesses and powers you give to a certain character make that character unique and special. But exactly those unique and special characters get rarer and rarer as everyone is trying to create relatable, "believable" characters, scared of theirs being called a "Mary Sue". If your character does impersonate some of the traits on the right, awesome! At least that'll make them more memorable. If they don't, that's allright to. Just be sure to give them something special to make up for their average-ness.
Because what really shapes your character isn't that their good at Basketball and like animals. It's their quirks and growth as a character, it's how they crie everytime someone breaks their heart, yet try again and again at the relentless raffle of love. Or how they go from being the little, looked-down-upon infant to the saving grace risking their life for the people they care about.
It's not the cutesy, green hair that matters. Or the unicorn sidekicks. It's how, well, "believable" and "well-thought out" your characters are.
And to tell you one thing, Miss Neko-jin on the left is neither.
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kawaiispringbonnie Featured By Owner May 31, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
she is a troll account
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:iconcreativity-buttery:
Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner May 31, 2016  Hobbyist
I have figured that out by now. Still, thank you.
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:iconkawaiispringbonnie:
kawaiispringbonnie Featured By Owner May 31, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
no problem.
^^
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GreatRose101 Featured By Owner May 23, 2016
PREACH
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:iconinsaneophelia666:
insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016   General Artist
Bla blablablabla i m not reading all that 
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:iconcreativity-buttery:
Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016  Hobbyist
Well, then let me tell you something that actually catches your attention:
UR OC SUX
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DerRotenNachte Featured By Owner May 21, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
Rekt
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:iconinsaneophelia666:
insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016   General Artist
no I dont care what u think and im not reading that i cant be bothered idiot 
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:icongreatrose101:
GreatRose101 Featured By Owner May 23, 2016
You really shouldn't be the one calling others idiots
Mate.
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:iconinsaneophelia666:
insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner May 23, 2016   General Artist
well I am MATE 
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GreatRose101 Featured By Owner May 24, 2016
Child, an idiot like you is not in title to do so. You're only making yourself seem worse.
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Slimey-Slime Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2016  New Deviant
Fuck off.
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:iconinsaneophelia666:
insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2016   General Artist
NO YOU FUCK OFF
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:iconcreativity-buttery:
Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  Hobbyist
..because you created that OC with the premise of mimicking your fake-personality of an obnoxious 7-year old girl, my dear middle-aged friend with no life. Had you created it to be an intriguing, unique character that might have come out differently.
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:iconinsaneophelia666:
insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016   General Artist
IM NOT MIDDLE AGED FYI IF U DONT LIKE MY OC FUCK OFF BITCH
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:iconcreativity-buttery:
Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  Hobbyist
..because you created that OC with the premise of mimicking your fake-personality of an obnoxious 7-year old girl, my dear middle-aged friend with no life. Had you created it to be an intriguing, unique character that might have come out differently.
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:iconinsaneophelia666:
insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016   General Artist
IM NOT MIDDLE AGED FYI im 14 so be quiet IF U DONT LIKE MY ART LEAVE ME ALONE BITCH 
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:iconkawaiispringbonnie:
kawaiispringbonnie Featured By Owner May 30, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
You might be 14 , but there is a child in you   
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:iconinsaneophelia666:
insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2016   General Artist
no I dont care what u think and im not reading that i cant be bothered idiot 
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:iconcreativity-buttery:
Creativity-Buttery Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  Hobbyist
..because you created that OC with the premise of mimicking your fake-personality of an obnoxious 7-year old girl, my dear middle-aged friend with no life. Had you created it to be an intriguing, unique character that might have come out differently.
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:iconinsaneophelia666:
insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016   General Artist
IM NOT MIDDLE AGED FYI im 14 so be quiet IF U DONT LIKE MY ART LEAVE ME ALONE BITCH 
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:iconinsaneophelia666:
insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016   General Artist
IM NOT MIDDLE AGED FYI im 14 so be quiet IF U DONT LIKE MY ART LEAVE ME ALONE BITCH 
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:iconinsaneophelia666:
insaneOphelia666 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016   General Artist
IM NOT MIDDLE AGED FYI im 14 so be quiet IF U DONT LIKE MY ART LEAVE ME ALONE BITCH 
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